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| Author | Roger Cheesbro |
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| Date | 28 May 1998 |
| Summary | On questions-as-objects (QAO), when to use -wIj and when to use -wI’, on what kind of subject to use with SIS ~rain~, and the fact that you can’t use jIbuy’ to say “I’m full”. |
| Title | long weekend with MO |
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From: TPO <cheesbro@mail.rpa.net> = DloraH Reply-To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998
Subject: long weekend with MO Well, I just spent last weekend hang'n with Marc Okrand. I got answers for some of our questions and a "I'll have to think about that one" for some other questions. Hopefully I won't misquote Marc. Lawrence was with us during some of our conversations. The first one I nailed him with was our lovely QAO. Uh-oh. You can not use a "question" as an object; but... it is not known yet if Klingon question words can act as one of those relative things, uh, relative pronoun is it? You guys know what I'm refering to. So basicly we didn't really get anywhere with this one yet. The safest thing for now would be to recast if possible. Next, -wIj, -wI', and other related suffixes. "Beings which are capable of language". They must be a "being", which rules out things like computers. And yes, it must be able to use language. This was not simply another way of stating sentience. Now, to clearify "use of language" a little bit... A child which has not yet developed language would still get -wI']. This kind of goes along with how Klingon doesn't have tense. 99.9% chance that this child will later use language. Someone earlier brought up the hypothetical situation: if someone is in a coma, they can not speak. Well, they were able to, and perhaps will someday again. They still get -wI']. When someone dies, if you are talking about the "person" they get -wI']; and of course if you are refering to the empty shell that is left, it gets a -wIj]. SIS. In a way everyone was correct with this one. It rained a few times during the weekend, so we were put into the situation to discuss it. SIS SISqu' SIStaH SISchoH All correct. SISlu', altho grammaticlly correct, he didn't particularly like. Someone COULD use it but to me it sounds like they skipped science class and don't know what the subject is. You can also give it an object and say things like the clouds rained down cats and dogs. ...or something like that; you get the idea. But when Marc and I went outside and drops of water were falling on us, he looked up and simply said "SIS". I also showed Marc my notes about the old Klingon number system he mentioned in TKD. He comfirmed my findings. I can add, subtract, multiply and divide in the ancient way. He said he will think about the terminology and grammer to use in mathematical operations. And a little side note... [buy' ngop]. "The plates are full." KGT. No problem. Now, after a big meal, and your belly is big, you can't eat another bite. You can't say [jIbuy']. Your stomach can be full, but YOU can't; not in this context anyways. Hopefully I was clear about everything. There may have been a couple other tidbits. If I recall any more, I'll be certain to send them here.